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Samantha Jade opens up about struggle with body image after US label told her to lose weight

Samantha Jade opens up about struggle with body image after US label told her to lose weight

Samantha Jade opens up about ‘lifetime’ of body image issues after being told by a US record label that she needed to lose weight. 

Telling pop culture Lemon podcast for the first time, Jade said that the comments had “changed and shaped” her. 

After being signed at 16, Jade was in a meeting with Jive Records executive (Britney Spears, Justin Timberlake & Pink) who said she needed to go to the gym.

“I was wearing these tight and low jeans… and a little tank top and there was a little roll over my jeans,” She said. 

“I remember the guy saying ‘We need to get her into a gym to get abs like Britney and Janet Jackson’ and they were showing me videos of them.”

Jade said that the comments made her have a ‘complex’ with her stomach her whole life until the last few years. 

“You don’t know that you’re shaping these kids in such a way that it’s going to affect them forever.” 

Jade was dropped by Jive Records when she was 21, which saw her pursue a career in the US independently. 

After mustering the courage to start meeting records executives again, one label told that her demos were ‘great’ but her voice lacked ‘star tone’ and was ‘not memorable’. 

Samantha Jade packed her bags and came back to Australia and gave up on the music industry for a few years before auditioning and winning the X Factor Australia in 2012. 

She is now one of Australia’s most celebrated pop stars and is currently promoting her new single, ‘Bounce’.

The full interview and show is available on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or wherever you listen to podcasts. 


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[00:00:00] I remember one time that really changed me and shaped me, I think was I went into a meeting and I was like of 16 at the time and just been signed. And I I had a bit of, you know, like I was wearing these really tight will, really low jeans were in, which was a terrible time for everybody. And they were really, really low and armon brokering a little tank top. And I had like a little roll over my jeans. Right. Sixteen years old. And I remember the guy going, we need to get her in the gym. We need to get abs like Britney and Janet Jackson. And they were showing me videos of Britney, Janet Jackson, who had like twenty thousand abs, you know, and and I I have had a complex about my stomach from then my whole life.

[00:00:55] Hello and welcome to this week’s episode of In Conversation with LEMON. Like most people, you probably knew Samantha Jade after she was expected in 2012. What most people don’t realize is that she actually had a whole other life behind her at 16.

[00:01:09] Sammy was already living in L.A. and was signed to Jive Record, the same record label behind Britney. JT and Pink. She released her debut US single Turnaround, which was actually like one of my favourite songs and even wrote songs for Step Up a Shark Tale. She was on track to have a successful pop career, but that was all taken away from her when she was dropped by her record label at 21. We cover a lot in his chat, including how a record label taught her that she needed to lose weight and how she dealt with those comments for the next decade of her life. We hope you enjoy this chat with her and learn what it means to persevere and fight for your dreams. Here’s Sammy. How’s your morning been?

[00:01:46] My mornings been great. Yeah. Where’s your flight from last night? Flew from Sydney. So not far at all. But it’s beautiful and sunny. Last one, it was rainy. It’s nice now.

[00:01:55] And you said you’re saying you’re getting hay fever elsewhere.

[00:01:58] The first hour in my life that I’ve actually had hay fever has been this year. And it’s so, so strange that it’s come, you know, later in life that apparently cancelled any time.

[00:02:09] I’ve been having like a dry reflect a loss. Yeah. I think just Melbourne and generals, the weather hasn’t made everything. And I know it’s very different.

[00:02:18] Says Sammy. We asked our guests the same question. So what are you watching all this is that you can recommend to our listeners?

[00:02:24] Oh, you know what?

[00:02:25] Watching. I’ve just finished one up to date with power. Oh, that’s the new show that I’ve been in all the 50 cent.

[00:02:33] Yeah, certainly. Yeah. What’s that about?

[00:02:35] Got me into it. It’s really good. It’s about it’s kind of about these drug dealers. And that life. But they’re also trying to. One of them’s kind of trying to get out of it, but they can’t they get pulled back into that life. So it’s really interesting. It’s set in New York City and I love New York so much. So I’m watching that, listening to ah, gosh, I am the worst with that because I listen to a lot of older kind of music. What’s your third decade? Oh, tough question. I love my 90s R&B. Yeah, of course. But I actually love the 50s.

[00:03:12] I really, really love music from before that. Aretha Franklin’s time was just a little bit. Yeah, yeah.

[00:03:18] Aretha, she had some awesome moments of that in that time. Yeah. I just I just love when I like I’m at home and I’m cooking and have a glass of wine. That’s kind of music I put on. Yep. Yeah. Takes me to a nice place.

[00:03:29] Anyone in the fifties that you want to be a you know I mean anyone in that time.

[00:03:34] I love that era. I just love the clothing as well. I love pencil skirts and the beautiful shirts.

[00:03:39] A curly hair generation. Yeah. I love it. Yes. The Maryland Times.

[00:03:44] So a lot of people Juneau’s that you grew up in Perth as well. So what were you like as a child growing up?

[00:03:51] I think if you asked my parents, they would say I was good girl, but I was annoying.

[00:03:55] I was always singing, always just like I think to be quiet. I sing pretty loud in the bathroom, echoes around the whole house.

[00:04:06] Well, I don’t blame me. I always just loved music. I love to sing. I love to always be, you know, doing some kind of a show. And I do feel like, you know, that’s when you do know that someone’s probably going to pursue something like music, because it was just in me from a very young age and it was influence from my parents because my mum was a dancer. And so I think that she was always, you know, kind of up for putting on music, dancing in the. You got your modelling side as well. Yeah. Yeah, exactly. But I just I loved music and it always did something to me. When I listened to songs, they took me to a place. And I think that that’s my love of music comes from a very, very young age. Is Perth like really music city and in cities like Melbourne or is it like, yeah, I mean, you’ve got a lot of incredible musicians that come from Perth, but I do think you have to leave. I do. Industry wise, I think the industry is more Sydney and Melbourne.

[00:05:02] Yeah. And growing up in, you know, you’ve come from that. You have a diverse culture as well. Know the people on your thought is actually Anglo Indian as well. Yeah. Yeah, that was I have any part into the music side as well.

[00:05:12] Oh definitely. I feel like that my mum, I miss my brothers and I are first generation Australians. So my dad was born in Mumbai, Bombay and my mum was born in Glasgow in Scotland. So they both moved to Australia and then we, you know, obviously first generation. So I do think that that’s influenced a lot. And my my family’s all that’s different food, it’s different accents, it’s different languages. And I think that’s really amazing. And I love that. And I really my culture is very, very important to me. And your mum’s Scottish, right? Yeah.

[00:05:47] So which identity culture have you identified with with what’s going on?

[00:05:52] Because you’re obviously Australian born.

[00:05:54] Yeah, I am.

[00:05:56] I don’t know, it’s a tough question. My family, my mum’s family are actually mostly in Scotland, so my dad’s family all moved over. So I I would say probably that side of my family I was exposed to a little bit more, grew up eating curries and chilli and loving coriander and all my family of Indian accents. You know, we had Indian Santa, we had Carrie on Christmas Day. That’s just how it was all I’ve known. And then, you know, I didn’t know that I was the only white cousin.

[00:06:27] Oh, yeah. I was the only white cousin in my whole family. And they would call me my white cousin. And I would I just didn’t even know what that meant.

[00:06:35] As I got older, you know, it was me, like, because I’m the only cousin that lives in Australia and lives in Cambodia. You got only a showing cousin, an equally white.

[00:06:44] White is, isn’t it?

[00:06:46] And you because you obviously children, you don’t know that growing up. You don’t know what that is. And then I even remember the first time I I I realised my parents were different colours because I never knew as a child. And I remember seeing my my dad, I was actually in school in primaries. No, I was in pre-school. And I mean, my dad came to pick me up and the whole class started going, stranger danger.

[00:07:12] Stranger danger. We just learnt about you. Yeah, that’s my dad.

[00:07:19] Yeah. And ah. And my dad saying, no, no, no, no. That’s just what they think is that doesn’t matter. That doesn’t matter.

[00:07:25] This is what they that’s what they see as U.S. has just kind of seen a bit of a transition.

[00:07:30] Yeah. Yeah he has because he had a lot a lot to deal with when he first moved to Australia. But yeah he he I mean my dad’s the most understanding and kind human in the entire world so. Yeah. Yeah.

[00:07:42] How has he always been really. I guess like a central role in music for you as well to go and pursue music.

[00:07:50] Yes. My mum and dad were those people. I was very lucky ’cause my dad actually was an incredible football player and he played for the Colts, which is kind of before you get into the Eagles, like the West Coast Eagles, which has big AFL team. And and he was kind of not he didn’t pursue that dream. And then my mum was a ballerina and she could have actually she was asked to go to the Russian Ballet, which is kind of as a ballerina. The big point. And she didn’t do it. And they both they they both were happy in their lives. They both were like, we want to push our children, you know, the opportunity. Never quite. Exactly. And so they always were behind me, 110 per cent and, you know, drove me to every every rehearsal and and always said to me, you can you can do this and pick me back up again.

[00:08:38] You know, you made me realise I realised I don’t know what my parents wanted to be when they were younger.

[00:08:43] I mean, that’s a I would suggest you ask, because it’s it’s something that you can’t ask when they’re gone.

[00:08:50] So it’s it’s very important to know those things to then tell your children and fast forward to your parents bring you to rehearsals, which you bit to research on them. We find out your friends send a demo to producers in L.A., is that correct?

[00:09:03] That is pretty MySpace is pretty Facebook. How did you like old emergently up even upline to file?

[00:09:10] It took like two years and it used to be like the dial up thing where, you know, the phone lines and the phone didn’t work when Internet did. Yeah. Oh, well, make me feel old. Yes. That was kind of how it happened. So I always kept saying that allow my family, my extended family were all in bands.

[00:09:27] And so I would get up and and just sing family parties. And then one of my cousins would like, actually, you’re quite good. I think we should get you into a studio. They knew a girl who had a studio. I went and recorded a demo and then that demo was taken near to L.A.. It’s so crazy. Um, I guess since. Yeah. So I think. Yeah, like in a seedy form in the mail.

[00:09:50] Fedex was back then and got sent and.

[00:09:53] Yeah. And then it kind of did the rounds of, you know, going to labels and then I do remember getting that call and they were saying, you know, we’d love for you to come over to the states and audition kind of for us. And my mum was like, sorry, she’s in school.

[00:10:07] And as got gardener, you know, because I think that I had no idea.

[00:10:12] She’s like, listen, you need to finish school. That’s just as important. So we went in the school holidays, which is four weeks over to L.A. and I recorded and and that’s when it all kind of came out like that, that call to say that you’re going to fly to L.A..

[00:10:25] I mean, for me, I was fifteen. So I just thought, oh, this is how it happens. All right. Well, I’ll be famous next.

[00:10:31] You know, it’s amazing.

[00:10:32] I had no concept of what it was really, really like. And I think my parents didn’t really either on that scale.

[00:10:39] But they obviously were adults. And I understood life. So they were like, oh, OK. Ladies didn’t want me to get ahead of myself and expect things.

[00:10:46] So they you got the call and no, like no, actually just finished school first. Tinker is on it.

[00:10:51] Yeah. They were like, listen, it’s very important. Finish school, it’s very important that we stick together as a family and, you know, your morals and and all of those things, and and I think they had heard some things about Ella. You know, the classic Hollywood stories. So they came with me. My mum came with me everywhere. And then when I got my record deal with Jive Records, which was a few years later, my mum and dad were were there.

[00:11:13] They came with me and my brothers who’d lived in L.A. with your mum, dad, T.J.

[00:11:17] Alex and me hope the whole family. Yeah. Which is so insane. I mean, look, it was the days of very big budgets of record deals. But yeah, we made that move and my family were like, we have to stick together because we didn’t want to be torn apart of very, very close.

[00:11:34] While in L.A., would they working another job earn things to support?

[00:11:37] You were there for my mom. Yeah, well, my dad was kind of doing schooling for my brothers ’cause my brothers didn’t want to go to an American school. That’s a bit different. And they were, I think, a year either. Headly behind it’s a bit different. So my dad would homeschool them. So he kind of became a teacher. And my mom would travel with me. She was kind of like personal management. So, yeah. Original poster.

[00:12:01] Yeah, she was. Exactly.

[00:12:04] And so during this period of, you know, working in L.A. for pretty much eight years. Did you find that, you know, living in Asia then moved to L.A.? Was what was kind of the difference in your lifestyle?

[00:12:14] I mean, it’s just such a different city. And I think it’s obviously a lot smaller, but it’s just a it’s a different Americas, a different beast, it’s a different culture, it’s a different place. And and I had to learn, I think, too, I had to learn balance. I think that that’s something we have here. We really nail that. And I think over there, when you’re in the industry, balance is the biggest lesson of coming home and and going on and to unload the dishwasher. I’m gonna wash the dishes or I’m gonna do the washing. Like having chores that you still do because you do think, well, I’m I missing now, you know what I mean? And you you it’s very easy for ego to take over. But my parents were very, very adamant about that not happening and working in that environment.

[00:13:00] You probably have the opportunity with a lot of A-list producers, singers as well. Yeah. And you you oneshot tell you, right? Yeah. Yeah. What were the pressures, I guess, from the entertainment point of view? Did you have to kind of at a certain way or even behave a certain way or just.

[00:13:16] Oh, definitely. I mean, it’s it’s such a encompassing industry.

[00:13:23] It takes over your mind because all you want to do is impress people. Right. Because you’re thinking, if I impress that person, I’m gonna move up the ladder. And that’s ultimately what what everybody wants. And so you are trying to be the perfect human and that’s soul destroying, you know what I mean? So I think that that in the beginning, it was a little bit like that. And I had to my mom, thank God my parents were there. I think if they weren’t, it would be a very different person sitting here right now. They were very, very hands on. And my mom used to always remind me, if you’re not happy in this, we’re going home. You have to stay happy and loving it for the love of music, you know, and obviously business is always gonna collide. But you have to love music. That’s why you came here in the first place. But, um, I remember one time that really changed me and shaped me, I think was I went into a meeting and I was like of 16 at the time and just been signed. And I had a bit of, you know, like I was wearing these really tight will, really low jeans were in, which was a terrible time for everything. And they were really, really low. And I remember hearing a little tank top and I had like a little roll over my jeans. Right, 16 years old. And I remember the guy going, we need to get her in the gym. We need to get abs like Britney and Janet Jackson. And they were showing me videos of Britney, Janet Jackson, who had like twenty thousand abs, you know, and and I I have had a complex about my stomach from then my whole life until I would say in the last few years, isn’t that crazy? And that’s the thing. You don’t know that you’re shaping these kids in such a way that it’s going to affect them forever.

[00:15:09] And it’s like they forget you’re only 16 years old at that point. Yeah. Oh, my God. This kind of pressure to kind of make it. I guess when I look at it from that support perspective, there’s an expiration date, especially for female pop.

[00:15:21] Absolutely. And that was the thing, is that they were like you 16. So we need to get it done now, like, you know. And and so long story short, but I was I was dropped at 21. So for me, I was like, my life’s over. What am I going to do now? So, yeah, it’s it’s a really tough industry.

[00:15:39] And it it truly is a hard place to be. L.A., if you’re not killing it, it’s a really tough place to be.

[00:15:48] Was any moments during the year process or even before, you know, you were a record breaker? Labels any point before you like, I just want to go home now like I’ve had enough.

[00:15:57] Yeah, oh, definitely. And I did go home at one point because I remember saying to my mom and dad, like, I I don’t know, I’m starting to not know how to to do this with love. I’m. I’m doing it as a as a job. And I’m losing every time I go on stage. I’m just doing what I’m supposed to do. You kind of lose the passion. Yeah, I was I was losing the passion. I was didn’t know I was nervous about how I dressed. I was nervous about how I looked. They had me they had me get braces and I had them tightened to specific braces, tightened every month. I had them tightened every week. Wow. Because they wanted to speed up the process.

[00:16:37] I was in constant pain coming from a dental background. That’s insane.

[00:16:42] Excruciating. Yeah. And in my head, I would have a headache because of that. Cause, you know, it’s all connected. Yeah. So it’s just like I was just put under the pump a little bit and. And my mom said, let’s go. Let’s go home. So we actually did we went home. Like, I took like a month off and went home. But the thing is, is that I remember coming back and it was like, all right. You’ve taken a month off. We’ve got.

[00:17:04] Right. Yeah. Again. Yeah. Walk us through the process. It’s like you pretty much, you know, people around you were telling you you’re gonna be the first famous person the world. You’re going to have money. You gonna go and school like Britney. You’re pretty much going to get this luxury lifestyle. And then suddenly when you’re 21, it’s all taken away from you. Oh, my God. Yeah. So what exactly happened?

[00:17:23] Oh, it was tough. It was tough. You know what it was?

[00:17:28] It was hard for me because at the time I was like. Exactly. I believed it all. And over there, everything’s bigger. Everything’s better. And I was also working with my heroes. I was signed to a label that I would’ve, you know, died to be signed to. I mean, the best pop label in the world, the time was drive Britney Spears like names like that that I grew up watching. That was insane. You know, so for me, there was no higher. So that’s what was hard, because once I was dropped, I thought that’s kind of as high as you can go. You know what I mean? So I lost a lot of my drive.

[00:18:04] I I I went through a really intense period of a lot of anxiety and I think depression and illness in a very light form. But I went through a lot and I needed to come home. But I didn’t because my family had moved back because obviously, though, the funds were gone and my brothers actually were starting high school.

[00:18:25] So my parents were like, we should put them in a Australian high school because they were petrified of American ones are like, there’s got to be fail, which I guess. I was like, absolutely.

[00:18:37] Let’s go to a normal little Australian Perth school. And, you know, came home. They came home and I was there on my own, still trying. And I knew I’d lost my deal. And I was going around. I’d built up the courage to go in, to come into meetings again. And and meetings are a whole other thing because you have 10 or 15 minutes to impress somebody. And so you’re going in and you’re like, this is it. I’ve got to sell myself, which I think Australians are really bad at, because we’re just not those people.

[00:19:07] Deonna, me tall poppy syndrome and was self-deprecating.

[00:19:10] And that’s just how we get around. And I love that about Aussies anyway. So I remember going into this one meeting and I’d really, really gone and got a little outfit from H&M and I was feeling great.

[00:19:20] And I walked in and we played songs and the guys going, this is quite yeah. Wow. Love this. He goes, I remember you from back in the day. I’ve always love your voice. I’ve always thought you were great. I was like, Oh, my God, thanks.

[00:19:29] And he goes, The only thing about this with you is you, Joan of a star tone. He goes, you got a great voice, but you just turn him in. Sound like I have no idea. I was like, what does that mean? He goes, You’re a great singer, but it’s not memorable. And and that was the day I packed up and I left. I was like, I literally that next day booked a flight. I’m done.

[00:19:51] We’d work independently, right?

[00:19:53] Well, yeah. So and so for me, I was like, oh, my God. Like, I’ve just built up all this courage and that within one second that that guy.

[00:20:03] He ruined it for me. He took everything away. So that’s when I came home and then started kind of looking into what I was gonna do when you came back home. What mum and dad say, they were like. Listen, like whatever you want to do, whatever you want to do is what we will back. You know that they’ve always been like that. But they said, I think it’s time. I think it’s time. I was 20. I was 25, you know, so I’d been there for a very long time. And I think that they got to the point, too. They were sick of seeing me. So up and down and upset.

[00:20:37] Yeah, it is like, OK, maybe you should look at getting a normal job.

[00:20:43] They said, well, no, they never did. I was like, maybe it’s retail. No, they were like, no, you should still sing. But why don’t you try Australia? Nazar.

[00:20:54] I’d never thought about that cause I never I kind of skipped Australia, I kind of started in America, so I was like, that’s a great idea.

[00:21:01] And I had kind of done my research and I saw that the people that I admired in Australia all come from TV.

[00:21:07] So now we know the infamous story that you did before X-Factor. You worked your ass off to the top. You won for adulation again. Thank you. And now that’s your. You’re an independent artist yourself. I do realize that. But it’s a bit of a scar when you think about Ali. And you kind of associate that. There’s a bit of like trauma to PTSD when it comes to.

[00:21:26] Oh, definitely. And I think, you know, that’s something I struggle with still. And mental health is something that I’m so glad that we’re really talking about these days. It’s something that affects all of us who no matter who you are. And I think yeah, I think it really left a very deep scar. And I was I was so young and impressionable. But I’m I’m truly grateful. And I can only say this now at my age now that actually it didn’t happen for me then, because I think that now I can actually appreciate where I am and not go off the rails. Do you know what I mean? I’ve got a sense of who I am and all of those things that I wouldn’t have had.

[00:22:06] I also think, like you’d learnt a lot from being in the industry as well. You can see on your performance, do you have that star power that starts today?

[00:22:17] It took a while, but I don’t think there’s anything that you did differently.

[00:22:21] Once you focus Pegasi Australia was anything you did differently. You didn’t do in America. I mean that you ever did.

[00:22:28] I think that I actually think it was just lt’s toll. I think that I was at the place where I was like, you know what? I I’m just gonna be me and Australia are very clever. The public here extremely smart. They know exactly what to look for and they like realness. And I think it was the best time and place. It just kind of was, you know, all married up. And yeah, I was at that place in my life and it was for Australians. And yeah, it just kind of it just worked.

[00:22:59] And what kind of courage contact you to go back to L.A. to work with so many people to write you hit back?

[00:23:04] Yeah.

[00:23:05] It took me a while to go back because every time I would, I would land and I would see the welcome to Los Angeles walking down there, you know, and there’s escalators and, you know, you’ve got like an hour ahead of you for customs. I would always get anxiety crippling like hardcore in my chest because I put on no, no, no, because it just was such a dark place for me. And so and that was four years. And so I feel like this time when I was writing this record and I was finally ready to tackle some of those issues, I wanted to start my why my writing process in the place that did that to me and kind of put a new stamp on it, because now I’m in a much better place, sort of like reclaimed. Yeah, I did. For myself. Yeah. So and that felt really nice. And when I went back. Yeah. This time it was a totally new experience. It was really, really fun. And bounce. So I think the excitement behind Bounce is that it is really positive and really happy and you kind of can hear that in just the track.

[00:24:06] You know, that’s a question a random bit like what’s it like being a pop star in Australia? Because I feel like Australians have this weird thing with it and want to support their local artists.

[00:24:16] Yeah. Yeah. Do you feel you feel that? Look, we have a tall poppy syndrome.

[00:24:22] That’s Australia.

[00:24:24] And yeah, I think there is a pressure. There is a weird pressure.

[00:24:29] But I think you just gotta keep plugging along and just hoping that and that you you stay in the industry. I think that that’s the biggest thing for Australians, is that you have to keep going and keep showing different sides of yourself and stay real. And like I said, they’re very smart as as as a public. So they know when you’re being real and they do support it.

[00:24:52] And before we wrap up, what’s one thing that you kind of have to do everyday, no matter how busy you are?

[00:24:58] One thing I have to do. Ah, well, I’ll give you two. I mean, coffee is my life and neither coffee in the morning. Oh, my God.

[00:25:06] The first thing I think of in the morning, aside from this, when I wake up in the morning and my mum taught me this is a really amazing little pearl of wisdom, is that when I wake up and I put, you know, you get out of bed, you put your feet on the ground, say thank you so that you start the day off being grateful and acknowledging that you are grateful for another day. And I truly do that every morning. And I I do think that starts my day off in a very different way. What happens if you don’t do it? I don’t know, X, I don’t not do it.

[00:25:39] So what’s one person that you wish you could follow on social media that doesn’t have social media dead or alive or Jon Snow easily?

[00:25:47] Jon Snow from Game of Thrones. Harrington and I have searched for him and he does not have it.

[00:25:53] What do you think he will? Well, what do you what you think it would be like a monster?

[00:25:56] I think it’d be so cool. I think it would just be the coolest, coolest person. And it would just be these weird, artsy, cool photos.

[00:26:05] Gavin, I love you. That’s great.

[00:26:10] One last question. Yeah. What’s one thing you wish you had written?

[00:26:14] Oh, my gosh. Perfect by a. That’s such a good song. I remember hearing that thinking. That is incredible because it’s like a classic. It’s like a. And it’s very, I think, hard to write classics these days because so many things have been done. But that song is a classic to me like that. That’s for me in the books with Unchained Melody and and those. It’s timeless. Yeah. Yeah.

[00:26:38] Would we be seeing kind of more of those acoustic sounds and Unix coming up?

[00:26:42] Not on this one. This one’s more Phillip Bob, son. Yeah. Yeah, we’re in the club a little bit on this one. And while I can still be in the club and then when I’m shoved out of the club you’ll be hearing those because I think that that’s my next, um. Yeah. When I’m in a bar with a whisky. No. But I think that that’s like the next kind of departure ’cause I love a ballad. I love a ballad.

[00:27:05] But I think that I need to be in a different place for that. To do that record.

[00:27:10] When can we expect the album and mixed single.

[00:27:12] The next single. I think next year.

[00:27:17] Looking. I’m looking for four pretty. Yeah. I’m not getting enough.

[00:27:22] I’m not sure. And the next single. But the album is definitely going to be next year. I’m thinking around my birthday in April. We’ll be touring as a 100 percent. Oh my gosh. Yes. And I did the best I played the best venue here, the Prince and Prince band room in Melbourne. And I just loved it so much. I can’t wait to do that again. Wonderful.

[00:27:45] Thank you so much. Thank you so much. So you’re going to make sure that you’ve Lisa Elvises or we can start streaming it down for us to get it done.

[00:27:54] I’m ready for you to hear it. We hope you enjoyed the chat with Samantha jape. Her new single Bounce is out now and it’s definitely going to be a summer anthem and definitely check out her music video as well. If you enjoyed this interview, go check out other interviews as a scrap and review us wherever you get your podcast from. Until then, see a.

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